They already have some of their guns suppressor ready. I kept mine in the shade when not moving. Opinions please and thanks. I used to have a BLR. There is only an inconsequential $5.04 difference in their 2017 MSRPs. In any case, the lever stroke is shorter than that of a Winchester Model 94 or Marlin 336. It all depends on the quality of your ammunition. I was expecting 1.5 to 2MOA. I was not expecting a Minute of Angle rifle in western guise. Calibers like the .300 Savage and .250-300 Savage brought new speed, and longer hunting ranges to the lever gun market, though the Savage 99 was produced in cool calibers from .22 High Power through .375 Winchester. The disadvantage is that the magazine may be separated from the rifle and lost, rendering the rifle a single shot that is usually very difficult to load, due to the yawning opening left by an absent magazine. Former gun slinger, current gun writer. 6.5 Creedmoor: nothing beats 120 GMX Superformance in short action. The Model 99s internal rotary magazine improved upon the standard tubular magazine used on earlier lever guns. I have a .338 Marlin Express thats a 5 round subMOA gun. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. Most notably, the Henrys trigger is mounted in the receiver, while the BLRs is attached to the finger lever and travels with it. or .308 Win. Ive read the comparisons with the Browning BLR. This also allows the receiver to be made of lightweight aluminum alloy, reducing the weight of the rifle, since the receiver merely holds the operating parts and is not a factor in the operating strength of the action. Henry just announced the Long Ranger in 6.5 Creedmoor. I want a Henry in .223 to go nicely with my CZ 527M in 7.62x39mm. I have never understood the hatred of Henry 22s. If you truly have a rough action , contact Mr. Imperato at Henry and Im sure they will make it right. Im having and issue. (2) is a barrel break-in proceedure in my near future? I had my heart set on buying the Long Ranger in 6.5 CM and today I went to Cabelas to get one. Either rifle would normally be carried in the field with the chamber loaded and the hammer lowered (to the "quarter cock" position in the case of the BLR and all the way to the frame in the case of the Long Ranger). A .30-30 is the most common lever action, followed probably by Marlins and Winchesters in pistol cartridges, originally .44-40. Add to that the greater ballistic ability afforded by shooting pointed bullets and the Long Ranger delivers what its name promises. The BLR is different from several other brand offerings in lever-action rifles. In fact, I missed two deer inside of 25 yards with it. They use magazines that dont line the cartridges up point-to-primer. I wish Id gone to the website before buying thoughI didnt realize that they were going to be selling a version with iron sights or Id have waited. Marlin is back and selling new variations of their 94, 336, and 95 lever actions as fast as they can make them. While the .30-30 Win is the most common chambering, the 336 is offered in the brush-busting .35 Rem caliber. This is to Shannon Armitage. Henry Long Ranger Browning BLR Weight 112 oz Length 40.5" 43" Action Lever Lever Caliber .223 Remington .30-06 Springfield Capacity 5+1 Finish Blued Blue Gun Type Rifle Sights Scope Base Barrel Length 22" Gun Stats Price History Recently Deals Henry Long Ranger Primary Arms $1515.99 See Deal Optics Planet $1515.99 See Deal MidwayUSA $1999.99 First 2 pros; I am very impressed with the quality of wood and despite the trigger being heavy (4.5) it is crisp with a tiny bit of travel (this is way better than either of the two axes I purchased prior to accutrigger option). The BLR is more standard shape and feel of the butt stock and foregrip. There is an iron sight version available. Mechanically, the Long Ranger worked great, though ejection seemed a little weak. I cant say much about the smootheness of the action because Cabalas wouldnt unlock the lever and let me cycle it. The Long Ranger mag release is a commendably small, flush button on the right side of the receiver. Any big game rifle that will shoot within 2 MOA is more than sufficiently accurate for its purpose and that certainly includes both of these lever actions, which typically deliver about 1.5 MOA with factory loaded hunting ammunition. Now that Hennry has made one I must have one . Ive shot both and the Long Ranger has a much better trigger IMO. the Long Ranger has a much slimmer profile. The Browning BLR is a very similar platform, though we're partial to the Henry for its American quality and unsurpassed customer service. The Henry has a slimmer stock and fore end, which provides an overall sleeker feel and silhouette that I prefer. The BLR is manufactured in Japan by Browning's long time partner, Miroku. I like the idea of a 308 in lever action and the look of this gun. Only con I can think of is that the action feels very rough and that I am fighting machine burrs the entire stroke. Henry has announced their new "Long Ranger" lever action rifle with box magazine in 308 Win., 243 Win., and 223 Rem.. But that hasnt stopped manufacturers from trying to make them better at taking deer over longer distances. the Blr has been done, I saw the 338 for sale for just yesterday. It may not seem fair to take off anything for what amounts to a sticky bolt, but theres perfect and there isnt. I love the 308 round and own 5 rifle in that caliber. But if you have the two side-by-side, fealt their balance and their actions and compare your groups theres really no question that the American-made Henry is a better product. The .500 S&W is hell on wheels in a revolver and gains velocity in a carbine-length barrel. I then purchased the elk special wildlife edition because apparently I have more money then sense. That light cleaning regimen stabilized accuracy and brought the average 100-yard group size down to 1.46 inches. Its MOA accurate and oh-so-pretty pretty. I wont buy a long Ranger, not at a $900 price tag. Unfortunately, both of these cartridges were almost lost to Marlins changes in ownership and manufacturing facilities. My total prone group was only 1.9 inches, not bad for 10 shots. It outperformed the hand load I built to replicate it by a tenth of an inch all done on a filthy dirty bore. | Many Model 99s not only survive to this day but make their way to the hunting woods each Fall as a reminder of both the quality and longevity of the design. For me, aquality scope in fixed four or six power will suffice in magnification for hunting, and likely be more durable than Illever need. 1. And there are other alternatives, including Big Horn Armorys new Model 89 and some excellent off-shore reproductions of classic designs. No way near as fast. This gun cost twice what my BLR did (20 years ago) and feels like half the gun so far. this is a fine gun. Included are steel sling swivel studs, Weaver style scope bases and a solid black recoil pad. HEY ALL.I think my Henry Golden Boy can hold its own against ANY .22 rimfire you would care to throw against it.i never expected any kind of accuracy from it from the beginning.it is from about 2002 when they were built in Brooklyn NY!!! What a let down. Since we dont get elk or big bears, Im still debating what to get thats practical. 3. A spongy, heavy trigger was one of the most common complaints about the Model 88. Will be trading for hopefully a Henry 7mm-08 in the near future! People are the same. Ive had tubular-magazine Marlins and Winchesters and some vintage Savages that were tack-driversand some that were not. Next, you'll notice the unique bolt design. Levers dont discriminate against left-handed shooters. 5.0. Its just as good, if not better than most of the bolt-action rifles in this price range. Yea, nothing against ARs, but not my cup of tea. When I asked the gun desk experts at Cabelas why, they told me; thats what I should expect since the gun only came out a few months ago. The .44-40 certainly is not. the theory was the cheap Ammo (Xmetal targets) and hypothesized the shoulder was to far forward and the bolt could not fully close . Prolonged sitting by an open fire would be a bad idea but sitting next to a wood burning stove with a heat shield while you warm your feet and your coffee wont affect it at all. Great rifle for the whitetails we were after in those days. Both offer fast repeat shots, should it become necessary. Big Macs vs Prime Rib. I really wanted this gun but its just not as nice as I had hoped, and what all of these reviews led me to believe. Henry fixes the biggest complaint about their guns on this model and people still give them shit. Others are shooters built for hard use but lacking class and unlikely to be remembered in a hundred years. The Long Ranger is noticeably heavier than the BLR Lightweight. Rifles are definitely in the you get what you pay for category. Unlike traditional lever action rifles that rely on a quarter cock hammer notch safety, the BLR cannot be forced to fire by a strong blow on the hammer, even if it breaks internal parts. It is fitted with a generous butt pad to help recoil. I have been looking at bolt guns in .308 for some time now. It was accurate on the bench, but the high gloss finish on the stock and highly polished barrel were good for scaring game from glare in the fields and woods. That said, most modern rifles are suitable for optical sights. Because their bolts lock at the head, case stretch in minimized in the BLR and Long Ranger. Action Type: Lever Action Rifle So like any rookie in target ranges (was military for 25+ years, but apparently we stopped using lever action over a hundred years ago,,,shame) I asked someone for help. With proper bullets I suppose we could make an argument for lever actions in .44 Magnum and so forth, but the real shortage in lever actions is versatile, general-purpose cartridges. Little features how the round magazine release blends into the flat receiver,the bolts finish, and the checkering and quality of the wood itself shows that Henryspaying attention. Liberalism isn't just a disease anymore, it is a mental disorder. Several years back, Marlin teamed with Hornady to combine that same FTX technology with a new .308 Marlin Express cartridge. Lastly for 5.56 NATO weapons they sell cartridges they have made with Hornadys V-Max bullet design in both 50 and 55 grain weights. The Henry Long Ranger .308/7.62 NATO caliber rifle supplied sports a 4 shot detachable magazine that fits flush in the receiver. Wont by an AR because the way the action works I get hot gases burning the inside of my nose, but not with a lever gun. I hope this helps. Win. I had a new Browning A-Bolt in 30-06 that shot no less than ten different factory loads any better than 3" and most were worse. The Long Rangers bluing is well executed, the checkering is both functional and appealing, and the wood is far better than I would expect at this price range. One round in the chamber and four in the mag of a quick shooting lever action rifle is serious medicine for any big game . If I wasnt poor, Id go buy one of these right now. This rifle is an ultra-modern design built with state-of-the-art materials and methods. When in the back country, that makes a big difference The current barrel length is 20" for all calibers. Now Henry has entered the magazine-loaded lever gun fray. Good point and with a weight of 7 pounds, the Long Ranger is a much better choice to carry afield than a bull-barreled bench rest gun even if the trigger pull is heavier. Posts: 1,128. tn. After I pass several wet patches thru the bore and they come out relatively clean, I push a bronze brush thru the barrel 25 times and repeat with wet patches. The field of new lever actions chambered to modern, high-intensity cartridges is very limited. Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. The Henry receiver is longer than the Browning receiver, but lightly shallower and not quite as wide. The geared action uses a six-lug rotary bolt, and like other Henry firearms, are made in America of US-components, including beautiful American Walnut stocks. I also wish that there was a way that they could lighten the trigger a bit on the lever rifles. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I have had great experiences with both warranty divisions, but paying for shipping both ways was new to me and greatly appreciated. Well browning had made the BLR in 358 and I think they still do. The Henry 6.5 Creedmoor Long Ranger carries a price tag of $1,066. Marlin tried again in the early 2000s with the .308 and .338 Marlin Express. It comes with a beautifully grained walnut stock with a matte clearcoat. anyone? Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Browning lever in 243-trigger was 7 lbs, never thought of taking it to a gunsmith, too many guys wanted to buy the rifle due to accuracy, 60g Sierra HP For a bolt action man to go to a lever gun can be tough, when the trigger pull is over 4 lbs. I still use iron sights for short-range situations, such as black bears and wild hogs, but Im pretty useless before sunrise, and I lose the last few minutes of shooting light. My brother is a lefty and he never liked my marlin .30-30 cause of that right eject. With their smooth receivers and no bolt handle sticking out the side, these lever actions are more comfortable to carry in the hand, or slung over the shoulder, than a bolt action or autoloading rifle. Another difference is the rack and pinion geared lever and bolt design that can accommodate high-pressure modern magnum rounds. After calling Browning and being shocked by their price for re-timing the lever and bolt, he decided to try it himself. For more information, please see our Of the two mentioned, I would go with the Henry. Right now, the lever-action is once again hot. Joined: Feb 2009. Those seeking something different and even more durable will appreciate the All-Weather Big Boy with its hard chrome finish and weather-resistant black-coated stocks or the newer X-Model with tactical features like a threaded barrel, fiber optic sights, and black synthetic M-Lok stocks. While any Model 94 will get the job done, its hard not to love the earlier pre-1964 models for their collectability as well as stellar quality. Never had to send one back cause never had a problem. So they used familiar grips, slightly modified. I tend to look at firearms as once-in-a-lifetime investments and save accordingly. Therefore, a comparison is in order and should prove interesting. Blr all the way. BLR in 308 and Long Ranger in 243. Yup Browning still makes a BLR in 358. I thought I was good with an AR10 and a bolt action. market of gun buyers who arent interested in polymer wonders. Its a tack driver. I dont think "lever action" goes with "good trigger". However, instead of burying the receiver in a one-piece stock in Model 88 and bolt action style, a two-piece stock design more reminiscent of traditional lever action rifles (Savage 99, etc.) Obviously not a lever gun fan. I run a patch with Shooters Choice twice a day thru the bore until the green color is gone. It releases with any solid push of the button. Perhaps Sako should reintroduce the Finnwolf. I have a 308 blr white gold that just does not want to group consistently, even after a trigger job, really has nothing to do with the trigger traveling with the lever. Im glad to see Henrys Long Ranger come out with these issues addressed. The Long Rangerships with one magazine (Id certainly buy another). The receiver is made of alloy and has a caliber of 223 remington with a 5+1 capacity. The Single Shot is a quality firearm but I really dont want a break action .308. Kali Parmley of Gun Dog Magazine talks to George Thompson from Benelli USA about the new features from the Benelli line in 2023. Id clean it from the muzzle rather than attempt to take it apart and get the gears aligned again on its rack & pinion system. This makes them eminently suitable for reloaders. Also, most Savage 99s and all Winchester 88s (and Sako Finnbears) can be easily rechambered, rebored, or rebarreled to the big family of .308-based cartridges, including .260 Remington, 7mm-08, .338 Federal, and .358 Winchester. Being old I like lever action rifles and both of these manufactures make one chambered in 308. I bought a cheap Lee Classic neck size only reloading kit, the tap in and out with a hammer type. That is simply not the case because these 2 cartridges are not identical twins, and it is rarely good for a gun specifically chambered in .223 Remington to be fed 5.56 ammo. In recent years many hunters abandoned the lever-action, but a lot of them are coming back home. 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