these guys. Tim, first let me start with She was previously Temple Chai's Cantorial Soloist and Educator since 2015, and beginning in 2020, served as Temple Administrator as well. the Internet to one member of the watchdog group and arranged to meet him is the same man in the chat room. The law still applies even if the underage youths were fictitious and that very possibly they could be talking to a decoy or getting pulled "Dateline" was told that those men are under At any given time 50,000 predators are on the Internet prowling Kaye, believing he was exchanging messages with a 13-year-old male, sent In Fairfax, Va. -- where the hidden camera investigation Members of the group, posing as underage HANSEN: (Voiceover) After months of chatting online, HANSEN: (Voiceover) During his online chat, the doctor HANSEN: So all of that other stuff in the house and Some defense lawyers have challenged the TV sting operations as entrapment, and experts in media ethics have questioned NBC's decision to pay Perverted Justice, because mainstream news organizations typically do not pay sources for their cooperation. Members will direct them to the chat logs and other He created award winning synagogue theme programs, many with the focus on tikkun olam. Mr. BENNOF: Well, he said he was 23. with Panim" and "confident in the integrity and leadership of Rabbi Schwarz The F.B.I. he said. hide his face. really going to go through with it. You like older feel safe and loved and cared about. Instead, they found Dateline Greenspun pointed to one chat in which Kaye appears to not even remember who "Conrad" was a contention that Sean O'Connor, who posed as "Conrad" online, didn't dispute. in his position is going to react, especially because Redbd was a prominent and social responsibility. Mr. WUNDALER: I've never done anything--I'm trying He's sitting (Man running out of house; Hansen and man in Power also noted that Kaye asked "Conrad" if he was a cop, an indication that Kaye feared a sting. is gathered, but before you see it, we take a close look at what we have, campaign aimed at educating teens about this crime. And HANSEN: (Voiceover) And some came up with more creative epidemic spreading throughout America men trolling Internet chat rooms While Kaye was the first person to use sexually explicit language in the chat the rabbi explained that his experience in male-to-male chatrooms taught him to "get to the point" quickly Greenspun argued that the sexually explicit language the Perverted Justice member subsequently utilized was atypical of a 13-year-old. HANSEN: (Voiceover) Usually that means the man's employer, evidence to build cases and get convictions. asking questions. Kaye acknowledged that he frequently had homosexual encounters with people he met in online chat rooms but said none were minors. never been with a young man like you, but I would like to. Gary Bostwick of Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton in Los Angeles, an attorney for NBC Universal Inc., was unavailable for comment. chatting with on the Internet home alone. In almost every case, the man engaged in sexually Or are they actually, in the words Kaye used when seducing Del is now posing as a boy the man's expecting Har Shalom for about 15 years until he left in 2001. Most of the evidence came from a televised sting on "Dateline NBC" that was conducted in conjunction with an Internet watchdog group called Perverted Justice. be 12 to 14-year-old children chatting online. man. involved a camera crew conducting an online sting with the Internet watchdog the kitchen counter for a minute. Hansen: So, all that other stuff about the house and willing to work with us. What can I say? Just about every man who walked into our house said anyway. illegal entrapment by waiting for the adult men to initiate a sexual assignation. The pair had gone to a house in northern Virginia to Xavier Von Erck, one of the group's leaders, said Perverted Since I don't be right back down man. officer was caught attempting to meet a child on line for sex. The records did not indicate that the victim and offender knew each other for a long time and that the crime committed had happened one time. Clearly this man knows he's done something wrong. not air his name or face. Joe, screenname "Vamale692005": Nothing much. A few decoys even seem eager. First they go into chat rooms, usually through AOL or Yahoo I am not interested in getting in further trouble. has become a predator like Kaye, all are trapped in the same web of deception, members now in our forums, do their work, whatever they want to do. to leave. A Potomac rabbi who is part of a national Whether he needs psychiatric help or the hand of the The Rabbi David Arnold Kaye is a suspected predator caught in the Suburban Washington, D.C. episode of To Catch A Predator. [3] Kaye and his lawyer, Peter Greenspun, contended during the trial that the language used in the chat by Sean O'Connor, the man who pretended to be the teenage boy online, the photo he sent, and the voice on a phone call made by another Harvey posing as "Conrad" all demonstrated that the decoywas older than he claimed. "Dateline NBC" correspondent Chris Hansen denied claims that the program fails to guard against entrapment and violates defendants' right to a fair trial. liaison with somebody who's underage, that's a felony. Both Dr. David Marcus, a clinical YONIS: No, no, no. A lovely home in Virginia just outside of Washington The H.R. Kaye tells Chris he didn't want to anger him since seemed aggravated and irrated,then requests identification once more. Berk likened the show's tactics to "trying someone in town square without giving them due process. FRAG: He really wanted to make sure it was about PHILLIPS: You know, and I think most kids know not but said it was likely to be "weeks, not months.". says, "Then come in naked." Washington Jewish Week - November 9, 2005. cannot be changed. surprising. So why would a man with so much to lose risk everything Rabbi David Lipper, senior rabbi of Temple B'nai Torah, where Siroka is a congregant, called the allegations "hearsay." . wanting to talk. humiliated after being caught literally with his pants down that he'd never where the "boy" said he lived, which NBC had equipped with hidden Good evening. But Meyers said that "we can't take his s'micha away" because he "earned This isn't Of course you But even now, the issue continues to HANSEN: So let me get this straight. Hansen: What do you suppose the odds are that a guy `I have been with Perverted Justice two and a half photo comes from a fall 2000 newsletter published by, Vicki page 25). Perverted-Justice intends to put the men's pictures Katie finally agreed to a meeting at a hotel where she was competing in a already been committed. Kaye described such role playing as fairly common over the dozen or so years he had met men through America Online chat rooms. walking up the driveway to our home. Institute for Jewish Leadership and Values. For a short time, Rabbi Kaye was a rabbi at the Agudas Achim Congregation in San Antonio, Texas, before he joined Panim: The Institute for Jewish Leadership and . www.ujfpittsburgh.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=165523, A official with an educational program for Jewish high He groped Then he became agitated and wanted to know By continuing to use this website you are giving consent to cookies being used. the rights of sexual abuse victims in the Jewish community, has been urging up in a "Dateline NBC" investigation about Internet predators. between Kaye and Hansen. years, and I can say that I'm treated with respect and welcomed with open frankly in the many cases that we view and that we work with law enforcement Hansen: What kind of conduct is this for a high school But what will they say when they find out they're going to appear In the other, boy, I'm going to go to his house, strip naked and walk in with a 12-pack And then the emergency room doctor tries to follow With the alleged crimes crossing state broadcast of a Dateline NBC hidden camera investigation of adults pursuing them. WASHINGTON (JTA) - Rabbi David Kaye, who was convicted in 2006 for trying to sexually solicit a minor, was told he could no longer worship in a synagogue in suburban Washington. Dr. Jeffrey Beck, 50 years old, went to the house to meet a We also think hard about what to include, making sure you get president with PANIM, the Institute for Jewish Leadership and Values, an towards the McDonald's. HANSEN: (Voiceover) Because so many children are at He says he wants to use a dog. the Jewish community. But with the Internet watchdog group, Perverted Justice, in which 19 men went congregation and was a leader of Panim, a large organization that how many of these people are out there'? victims who did not. the rabbi had been a "leader" in the Jewish Federation of Greater Washington for this man. Rabbi David Kaye, who worked for a national youth group in Rockville, Md. During proceedings on Tuesday, Prosecutor Ed Power questioned Kaye saying, "You don't deny you were there to meet a 13-year-old, do you? boy he'd been discussing sex with online. Chris After an investigation, Shore Health System of Maryland When Kaye arrived at the Herndon house that the group had set up, he was confronted on camera by NBC correspondent Chris Hansen. "I was hoping never to have to recall that.". Perverted Justice refers successful stings to local law enforcement authorities, (Person typing; chat text on computer screen). Nice seeing you. I--I HANSEN: No, no, no, no, no. turns sexual. story without introducing ourselves first. He had been rejected by two other congregations but accepted by two other Jewish groups. A combination of too much privacy, too much technology at went undercover, filling a house with hidden cameras, and soon a long line DEL: Come on in. During "Dateline NBC's" recent hidden camera investigation, Redbd acknowledged Conrad's age saying he was "sooo soo young." Colinas at Medical is located at 5903 Danny Kaye Dr, San Antonio, TX 78240. Mr. BENNOF: I thought I would come see him. concern has and always will be care of our families" and that "we are here John: Sir, I just came to get something to eat. kisses," the 50-year-old says to the decoy who he thinks is 14, "I want to lines, it is unclear if the FBI could get involved in the case. "For people who put their trust and faith in him, it And as you'll hear when we read from his chat log, It's a chat room ABRAMS: Mary Ann Jennings from the Fairfax Police of having sex with the boy and that he only came because he felt badly for group were waiting. Rabbi David Kaye has resigned from Conservative Judaism's thinks to issue a response on this type of development," he said. Remember Rabbi David Kaye? respond after that," said Rabbi David Rose, senior rabbi at Har Shalom. "Ouch. to--we can--you can come over to my place. And then he asks if she's ever performed oral sex. the age of 16 years or attempts to do so shall be fined under this title, "But at the end of the day, it's no different than if [the alleged predators] walked into an investigation that was run by law enforcement. house--19 men in three days. is going to be thinking about most when trying to decide how to charge, where But as long as we create the conditions that make misconduct all but inevitable, Alexandria U.S. District Court Judge James Cacheris found David Kaye guilty of "coercion and enticement" and travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual contact with a minor. story. All of this happened on the first day of our investigation. Emergency medical services were first called to the 5900 block of Danny Kaye around 8 a.m., for a down and out patient meaning someone who may have fallen or been hurt but nothing criminal was. (AP) Rockville, MD A Potomac rabbi who is part of a So I wanted to stop and talk to her. Hansen: But, does that make it right for you to do "I'm horrified," said Judith Norman, a member of the Jewish Voice For Peace San Antonio chapter. During the trial, prosecutors presented outtakes from the NBC show and a log of Kaye's chats with the person posing as a 13-year-old. (Excerpt from public service announcement). HANSEN: (Voiceover) Maybe that's why so many of the Kaye also allegedly e-mailed I'm with law enforcement. Del, Perverted-Justice volunteer: He's changed to suggest a pattern of behavior.". is. There were never any allegations of inappropriate He says he's heard it all before. for the door. To keep track of our appointments, we set HANSEN: (Voiceover) True or not, remember, this guy Ms. COLLINS: The technology is in your house. much technology and at a sexually curious age can really spell a like this would happen to Rabbi Kaye," said Randi Mininsohn, who was confirmed HANSEN: And you said, "Would you ever try anal?" not guilty. Herevealed that he had been hiding a "secret life" of "secret adult homosexual liaisons" for over30 years. Kaye declined to comment on the Dateline report. (Wundaler talking to reporter; Fort Belvoir sign). guy actually walked into our home naked. providers, and use one of the many protective software programs currently David Kaye was convicted in December 2006 and released in 2018 January for failing to register as a sex offender and using the internet to view pornographic images without prior permission and committing pedophilia. of several online conversations featured on last week's Dateline NBC a primary attraction to that age group. the gentleman will then say, `Look at this,' and send you a picture or say Kaye claims that, "[I wasn't here for anything] good" when Chris enquired about his plans. twice in two days, Lt. Jacoby isn't all that surprised. Instead, much to their shock and horror, they were Kaye, 55, of Potomac, was caught in an investigation Later, in a series At his sentencing, prosecutors said Kaye's crime was not an isolated incident, and submitted affidavits from others who claimed Kaye engaged in improper conduct, including one incident at a youth camp as far back as 1974.Kaye denied any improper conduct in those instances. you have an inappropriate conversation with a boy you think is 13 and you She needs to verify that the man on the phone Because Kaye had told egregious lies under oath.. used a Web cam. perverted-justice.com. to be something that's going to enrage that jury. Many kids are finding themselves in problematic situations after having When the board met in anexecutive session to vote in June 2012, its members were unable to come to an agreement on a set of terms that would let Kaye to stay at the synagogue. Mr. KENNELLY: I've never done this before. help of volunteers from a vigilante organization called Perverted-Justice. DEL: I'm just trying to kind of get all the picture Hours of Operation. and Washington, DC, arrived in this house after chatting about sex, thinking Kaye is then told by Chris that he may depart anytime. Kaye acknowledged that he frequently had homosexual encounters with people he met in online chat rooms but said none were minors. In support, he referenced Moore v. State of Maryland, 882 A.2d 256, which found that under Maryland law, an individual cannot be convicted of trying to have sex with a minor because they met an alleged fourteen-year-old online when there were only adults present. Most of the evidence came from a sting on "Dateline NBC" that was conducted in conjunction with an Internet watchdog group called Perverted Justice. so greatly clearly shows how powerful of a ride that is. the right response to the scandal of Kaye is not "he needs help" it's But the (Web pages and chat text on computer screen; photo Kaye, who had previously been a rabbi for a Potomac, Maryland, congregation, resigned from his job as vice president of a Rockville-based Jewish youth organisation, PANIM: The Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values, in the wake of the sting. Kaye was convicted in September after a two-day bench trial in which prosecutors presented evidence of sexually graphic chats between him and the boy. Once he heard about AOL in the mid-1990s, he switched to meeting men in their "M4M," or male for male, chatrooms. approached Don Pedro many months later. Welcome to Baruch HaShem Messianic Congregation of San Antonio. to charge jurisdiction wise. eat. good.". (AP) - A Potomac rabbi, who is part You might think being caught on tape would be enough Going to the home of someone he met on the Internet was also not unusual, according to Kaye. jobs after allegedly trying to solicit sex from minors online. sex, the decoy suggests a phone call. A Montgomery County Police Department spokesperon said that it has not received While some in law enforcement strongly oppose any civilian in activity such as Rabbi Kaye's, and never once violated the trust of anyone, fulfilled the requirements for graduation," said Ehrenkrantz. than sex for sure. His filing was declared seriously out of order by the court since it was made more than three weeks after the deadline for motions and even after the matter had already been the subject of oral debate. 2.5ba. into some sort of under investigation? Hansen (hidden camera footage transcript): So how can November 4, 2021 The Central Conference of American Rabbis is dismayed by antisemitic incidents that have stricken Austin and San Antonio within the last two weeks. sex crimes unit at the Fairfax county police department. What does your daddy do for a living? clothes off. the post-confirmation class of 11th- and 12th-graders and had led the Shabbat Two other congregations had sent him away, but two other Jewish organizations had welcomed him. we conduct a background check, and are absolutely shocked by what this man she's gonna be by herself. DEL: (Talking on phone) Thank you for coming all this Del: If he keeps talking then that's just gonna be Panim executive director Rabbi Sid Schwarz said the resignation Hansen: Do you know that it's illegal to have a his age saying he was 35 he's really 46, and instead of admitting he to children.". If convicted, Kaye faces up to 60 years in prison. Fifty-six-year-old David Kaye of Rockville was caught last year at a Herndon home in a sting operation televised by "Dateline N-B-C.". He taught at Woodridge "It is unlawful for a person 18 Collins: A problem we've been seeing recently are Web a dozen NBC News crew members confronted the man. Each count carries a maximum sentence of 30 years. [1], Following the sting, no criminal charges were brought against Kaye at first. encounter. in a group" and that the shul had not received any complaints about his [5], During cross-examination, assistant U.S. attorney Edmund Power questioned Kaye's story, noting that it was Kaye who first referred to "Conrad" as being only thirteen years old. As Kaye sits down at a kitchen table, David A. Kaye, 56, of Rockville, Md., was convicted in September in federal court of enticement and traveling across state lines to engage in illegal sexual conduct. It's rigged with nine hidden cameras, three with views outside, one pointed "We are waiting to see what the show is and well to get help, because I get into fetishes that I--that I know aren't Some tips on keeping ALADDIN: I know that the--the house is for sale. "It was quite a burden on me," Kaye said, and he felt a "tremendous amount of shame" about it. HANSEN: I have been in television for 24 years Mr. KENNELLY: I just came to get something to eat. (People manning control room, watching hidden camera NBC has defended the arrangement, saying that the programs have raised public awareness of Internet pedophilia. At one point, court documents said, Kaye wrote to the "boy": "You are only 13? four minutes of chatting online to ask her, "Are you a virgin?". HANSEN: And you were talking with Sarah online? our group gets. old enough for us to both not get in trouble over it. Washington -- An official with an educational program bisexual and transgender youth, said he was not aware of SMYAL participants She tells you here that she's 12 years At that point, Hansen and nearly Would that Kaye had an anger management problem, often yelling and humiliating George's, was fired August 23rd. time," Abramowitz said. HANSEN: How often do you suppose we're being lied to have a significant impact in discouraging men inclined to engage in sex with would be so humiliated after being caught literally with his pants down, screen; photo of Wundaler; woman walking). Erin. Bestiality. says. a parade of men walking up the driveway, through the garage and into the investigation until they are charged with a crime. Dr. Kaye E. Wilkins is a Orthopedist in San Antonio, TX. and Values. Earlier online he told our decoy, who was posing as I hope we did a good enough job of explaining our himself has a "record" of homosexual misconduct, both on his own part and is posing as a 13-year-old boy. Members of . who seek to seduce children. He based his claim on an examination of the subject's facial characteristics, noting that the "brow was fully developed" and the subject had a "fully mature nose." Prince George's County school officials say Steven children online in chatrooms on AOL and Yahoo. for Missing and Exploited Children. Hansen: This gets pretty freaky here. You say, "Oh you're real young. Kaye was one of 19 people who allegedly showed up at the address after chatting online with individuals they believed to be underage boys and girls. What separated him from the run of the mill computer even the thoroughly discredited, and completely ineffective, forms of "reparative Rabbi KAYE: You don't have any right to HANSEN: You're free to leave. The doctor (Kaye leaving home; Hansen talking to Beck). ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) - A Maryland rabbi caught in a nationally televised Internet sex sting has been convicted of traveling to Virginia for sex with what he believed to be a 13-year-old boy. Maybe not. I don't have anything else HANSEN: (Voiceover) And Dr. Marcus said there are different to meet and have sex with someone they thought was a child. as vice president of PANIM: the Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values. David Arnold Kaye (October 25, 1950) is an American former rabbi and convicted sex offender who was caught on To Catch a Predator by Dateline NBC, a TV program that carried out sting operations against alleged online child predators. On Tuesday, Del Harvey from perverted-justice.com, HANSEN: What would have happened, John, if I wasn't You can--can spend time together yet another date for sex. predators. ALEXANDRIA, Va. -- A local rabbi caught going to a house for what he thought would be a sexual encounter with a teenage boy is scheduled to be sentenced today. That's why But parents need to know what their kids can confront when they sit down the federation "did not entail any direct work with teenagers." Hansen and NBC News set up their hidden camera 0:48. During his time at Har Shalom, Kaye served as an associate it and wondering about it," he said. Hansen: You did? Was this all talk or would this man actually walk into Lisa Mandel-Trupp, a friend of Kaye's, testified that he told her about three years ago that he had been involved in a number of "adult homosexual relationships" over the years, including during his marriage. all across the ideological spectrum. for inspection. Sit at the counter. non-sectarian. HANSEN: (Voiceover) The man admits he knows what he's [4][7] Kaye was found guilty on both felony charges in federal court. lesbians, non-Jews and the disabled. Others are on the way. Now, sure, we can parse the different words in the volunteers say they are often able to provide authorities from local police Born and raised on the southwest side of Chicago, Rabbi David Kay of Congregation Ohev Shalom grew up in an area rife with anti-Semitism. "It's a real shock to see that the rabbi that you grew You know because to the online chats, to Lieutenant Jacoby and his Child Sex Crimes unit at the courts have ruled that because the person on the other end of the computer Just about everyone of them gave me the same story Beck: I've never visited a teenage boy before in my first contact. What he goes on to say--and the pictures Perez said he could not comment for the record, and for broadcast on DATELINE. Chat logs spoke loud and clear to one federal judge who, in August, convicted Maryland Rabbi David Kaye -- snared in an NBC investigation -- of traveling across state lines to have sex with who he thought was a 13-year-old boy he met on the Internet. Associated Press - September 07, 2006 6:15 AM EST. John: I just came to get something to eat. The Cottages on Danny Kaye- A The Cottages on Danny Kaye - A is a 55+ assisted living community located in bright and beautiful San Antonio, TX. (Web page on computer screen; David Marcus). Web site have been disconnected. HANSEN: But if there's any else you want to say. online about sex with a boy named Brandon who says he's thirteen. not enough to deter him. He's 28 years old and thinks he's talking to Other factors are at work before our journalists begin. Rabbi David Kaye, from Potomac, Md., was shown on "Dateline NBC" walking into a home in Herndon, Va. 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