One would need to see the EI profile to tell how what the differences are in the two version. Matt is the Founder and Editor in Chief of Plugged In Golf. Thanks! I generally have good strikes with her. Matt is the Founder and Editor in Chief of Plugged In Golf. Among the benefits they list are more centered contact, faster ball speed, and tightened dispersion. Upload or insert images from URL. For players that have always loved HZRDUS, the iM10 Low will be an attractive choice. In 50-R. Would love to win 60-s. Thanks. Paste as plain text instead, Thanks, Id like the 6-S in this Ventus shaft. Ping Glide Forged, 48, 52, 56, 60, DGS300. have always ordered fujikura shafts when getting new clubs! What weight / stiffness profiles are you looking to compare? I have hit the Ventus blue, and I did enjoy the feel. Similar to the HZRDUS Yellow shafts of the past, the counterbalanced Smoke Blue RDX has low launch and spin characteristics in a profile with a softer . wondering how the 70x would play on my ping head ! WRX Club Techs Hzrdus smoke green vs ventus black The Modern Classics: Testing Ping's G400 LST from 2017 NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Is there something youre unhappy with about the RDX? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. With a shaft from Fujikura it has to be good! I know you really liked the Diamana BF from last year. In the butt section, the Ventus is a little softer than the ATMOS Black and Speeder Evolution IV which leads to a slightly smoother feel. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Length Standard. Flex R2 50g. I had so many pages open on my iPad I must have got confused. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Yesterday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31. Your previous content has been restored. $296.99 Close. The 50 g stiff shaft as I need to reduce spin and pick up a little speed. I felt like I made terrible swings or good swings with the black and just went straight. I have a full review of the Tensei White here: https://pluggedingolf.com/mitsubishi-tensei-white-shaft-review/. Starting from the grip, theres light grey Smoke branding on top of the matte black shaft. They are quite different fundamentally but do share a soft midsection with stiffened ends. From your article I was thinking this was a tip stiff shaft with a softer buttcomparable to the tensei ck pro white? I do like the shaft just want to try something different. How do you tell the difference in a factory Ventus and one made for a OEM, by apperance? Paste as plain text instead, The shaft sounds really interesting. I would like to win Stiff 65g! Looking for a new driver shaft have fujikura 150s in my wedges Thank you. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Yesterday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X. This shaft sounds all the goods, please make mine a 6.0 regular flex. I am thinking the 70 Stiff would be perfect for me. For me, the Ventus is definitely requiring some lofting up because the spin is SO LOW. The idea of CB shafts is so that you can have a heavier headweight and still maintain a desirable swingweight. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Seems like a great shaft! Hzrdus Smoke Green im/10 60 gram Stiff mid. The Project X HZRDUS Smoke iM10 Mid is available at 50, 60, and 70 grams. I typically fit into the 60 gram range, and right on the edge of stiff/x So 60s would be my choice. Display as a link instead, Display as a link instead, I m planning on putting this shaft on my Epic Flash 5 wood and Epic Flash 4 hybrid. Thank you for the opportunity to play and review the shaft if I was to be selected This shaft would replace my 757 speeder!! The Ventus 60 stiff shall provide another lance in my battle against windmills. By mfbraun Started 31 minutes ago. My best advice would be to go to a store and try the driver yourself before buying. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thanks for the opportunity 50g in a reg shaft would be fab. Their EI profiles are different (where they are stiffer/softer throughout the length of the shaft), but they have a lot of similarities. So here goes: Sign up for your driver fitting here! Very interested in trying this shaft in 60 R. Looking for the ultimate shaft. You can post now and register later. It would be awesome to try out the 50 gram Regular in my Rogue! Required fields are marked *. I've hit counterbalanced shafts and "regular" ones and, other than them feeling a bit differently (of course), I feel a bit dumb in that I have no idea what the difference is in a counterbalanced shaft. Free shipping for many products! Seems like theyre similar profiles I get great numbers with the smoke green 6.5 non tx but looking for tighter dispersion so I picked up the ventus. I would give the Hzrdus Smoke Yellow a close look. Driver lofts 8 to 10.5 degrees depending upon angle of attack. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! I would like to try the 60g in stiff flex. Unfortunately I cant help you much here because the Red is the one Ventus I havent tested. I had it cut to 43.75 in. Last minute replacement or spare clubs/shafts for juniors? Id suggest taking both shafts to a launch monitor and see which one performs better. As a result of this kick, the Red RDX feels like the fastest HZRDUS, the one that's adding a little extra juice to your swing. When I switched to the iM10 Low, I got the classic HZRDUS performance. Translation: more ball speed and more distance. Regular 65 grams. This is a burly shaft that will stand up to very aggressive swings and transitions. Great feel, just cant get along with it. As usual thanks for the uplifting tech reviews, always helpful. Id like a 65 g shaft with a stiff flex. Would probably go R2 50 gram, as EI profile seems best for this old timer. Thanks for replying back! Thank You! I think that fits my swing & profile perfectly. Very intrigued by this. Dont seem to find it in Sweden no more. Some have even reported lighter swingweights with same "stiffness" and profile which could lead to increased club speed. Sounds like a great shaft to put in my new Epic Flash. The Fujikura Ventus Blue also has a straight taper design which contributes to both loading and feel, as well as a tip section with maximum energy transfer. 70 X would be ideal for my driver. You cannot paste images directly. I'm playing a 65 Five. Is it solely a tempo difference? HZRDUS Blue RDX Smoke: Stock Shaft vs Aftermarket Shaft Freddie Meikle Golf 1.5K views 1 month ago High Launch Low Spin Shaft? Tried Ventus blue in 7x and found the center of the clubface on everything but launched and spun a bit too high. Last minute replacement or spare clubs/shafts for juniors? I love the idea of better dispersion. Pls, can someone explain to me why on the callaway line up they offer the project x smoke im 10 6.0 with a 60 g weight 3.7 torque and the specs of the same shaft in the web of project x is 66 g ? I keep trying and I keep re-learning I do not get along with counter-balanced shafts.RDX Blue went to the BST. With so little spin, my shots didnt curve much, so when I got the face square at impact, the ball found the middle of the fairway. How would rate it against a ping tour 60s shaft? Watch this video of Fujikuras employees explaining the benefits of Ventus, and youll quickly understand that theyre not holding back with the claims of what this shaft can do. Both reg flex. Should I consider the air speeder. I just got a good education on the importance the shaft really plays in the driver. It seems like you loved both (although the reviews are a couple years apart). Thanks. Swing about 112 with a 159 balls speed and 13.4 launch angle. Thanks! Barry M. Reno, NV. Thanks for the info. 5 Testers Needed! Thanks Jason Warren. I was just fitted into this for my 3 wood during my Club Champion fitting. Leaning toward the Project X. I swing much more freely on the golf simulator vs. the actual golf course , so Im thinking my speed drops to 108-110mph. I would love to have one of these in a 6-S. Id really be interested to put this shaft to the test. Currently playing the Aldila RIP Alpha x-flex and its just feeling a little heavy in my Callaway EPIC SZ. Can you please offer me some insight. Best Shafts - Low Launch: Mitsubishi Diamana DF 60 and 70, Mitsubishi TENSEI White, ACCRA TZ 5 65, OBAN Kiyoshi Black, Project X HZRDUS EvenFLow White T1100, HZRDUS Smoke Green, Fujikura Ventus 6 and 7, LA Golf Black Tie 7, TPT Golf 15 MKP/MT/SW. Sounds like a great shaft Had I not read this in a review, from a trusted site and reviewer, I wouldve written it off as nonsense. This comment may be a little late . Also nice that some of the reviewers have slower swing speeds so we can see what average player distances, dispersion etc. The HZRDUS Smoke Black features a charcoal grey base and a large "HZRDUS" design. However, it felt the most difficult to swing. It is that the Smoke Blue has more torque. Your link has been automatically embedded. At 70 grams, you can get 5.5, 6.0, and 6.5. Mainehacker21, March 13, 2021 in WRX Club Techs, Coming from Hzrdus smoke black 6.0 looking at VB 6S. Would love to try the 50 gram regular shaft! Right out of the gate, the Ventus delivered. Please sign in to comment Andrew A Charlotte, NC In most cases, the handles feel stiff to me. This review sounds amazing. Golf Grips & Golf Shafts: Shop the biggest selection + fast & free shipping on $100+ in stock orders & easy returns! Project X continues to use Hexcels high end materials in their latest shafts, the iM10 Mid and iM10 Low. Probably a stiff 60, but would want to test for sure. The rdx is the updated version of the smoke black which was an updated version of the original black. The Ventus Blue in equal flex to the Ping Tour is probably a little softer feeling, so going up a flex might make them very close. 5 Testers Needed! More like high 160s, maybe even low 170s. The base is matte black and the HZRDUS Smoke graphic is matte green for a slightly similar look to the previous black version of the HZRDUS Smoke Green shaft. The Ventus is like a stiff blue board profile hinging on a whiteboard in spin and feel, and the RDX blue is like a stiffened counterbalanced HZRDUS yellow. I started thinking every blueboard profile i have. Id love it in 60 gram X-stiff. Can you compare it to the Project X Even flow Black in stiff , I believe , the Black is a lower launching shaft ,and low spinning , i was asking more about feel ??? The lightest version is offered in R2, Regular, and Stiff. Great article. Pasted as rich text. Have always played an 8.5-9.5 driver. As always, work with a club fitter to find your optimal fit. You can post now and register later. Regular Flex @ 60g. I build my clubs so swapping out a shaft is no biggie. Im certainly not doubting this, I was just wondering how it works? Would love to try the shaft in 60 S to keep my spin down. Very different feels, though both are stable in the tip. Currently have the 661 in my E Sub 0, sounds like this would really make me happy. I would choose the Ventus 8, Extra Stiff Thanks, Great review. At 60 and 70 grams, Project X offers 5.5 (regular), 6.0 (stiff), and 6.5 (X-flex). Great review Matt- sounds like an exceptional shaft! Doesn't matter a ton, but they are different bend profiles. My swing speed is in the mid 80s . perfectly. Swing Speed 106+, Distance > 250 yards Fitting Tips: Typically 75 gram shafts but smoother tempos can play lighter weights. The iM10 Low is offered in 60 and 70 grams. Oh, while youre at it can you slip on one of those new Epic Flash driver heads too? Through using Hexcel's HexTow HM63 fiber, Project X aimed to make an ultra-stable shaft that will hold up and keep spin down with any swing speed thrown at it. Your previous content has been restored. I would truely love to play this shaft in my Taylormade M4. Matt, Id love to try the Ventus in 6X! I play a graphite design Gt7x with a callaway epic 9 deg head and was thinking of going Ventus red 7x with Titleist tsi4 head which is 439 cc and 10 deg to get the smash and launch .Tried the tensei white and smash factor was low in my epic 9 deg head. I tested both shafts to see what the namesake material could add to the HZRDUS line. This makes it much easier to control the shaft which leads to better accuracy. I always appreciate your reviews. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I prefer something more stiff in the tip with a smooth profile. The Ventus is like a stiff blue board profile hinging on a whiteboard in spin and feel, and the RDX blue is like a stiffened counterbalanced HZRDUS yellow. Just dont say go to a club fitter. Your email address will not be published. By I was fit for the Ventus 6R and loved the results but never got to hit the AD DI. The Fujikura Ventus is extremely accurate. Aside from the blue rdx being counterbalanced, how do they differ in launch, spin and feel, and stiffness to flex? So, I just this one and your review of the Evenflow Riptide. Does one have an advantage over the other? Tight dispersion, low spinsign me up! Just bought a Callaway Rogue driver last year and cant wait to see what this shaft could do for such a wonderful head. Note: as you can see in the picture above the graphic, I tested the iM10 Low in TX which is stiffer than the 6.5 iM10 that I tested. It just never misses. The 60 gram version has the most flexes available 5.0, 5.5, 6.0, and 6.5. I sure would like a shot at winning this in a 50 Gram Weight R2 Flex. If you want to go a bit deeper, I suppose "predictable power juxtaposed with a blue ocean of yet-to-be discovered advancements" works as well. Calloway UW 19 Ventus black 7s Velocore, no headcover. Either way, the black 6x is perfect, love the feel. As such, it's best suited to players with fast clubhead speeds. My best advice is always to get a fitting and test a lot of things against your current gamer. Both deliver on their promised ball flight. At any rate, I have a fitting next week so well see if its even the best match for me! for years and love the shaft,but at 63 yrs old i think its time to switch.i would love the ventus 60 gram r,thanks for all the great reviews. Hzrdus smoke green vs ventus black By golfgolfguru, February 20, 2021 in WRX Club Techs Reply to this topic Start new topic golfgolfguru Advanced Members 117 Feedback 0 0 0 I currently have a Rogue Driver with a Graphite Tour IZ 6 stiff, how will the Project X HZRDUS Smoke iM10 60 Graphite with Max LS head compare in your humble opinion? 0. I currently play the Graphite Design Tour AD GP 6S and the Ventus sounds like an update of this design. All Rights Reserved. Nickname scratch but with psoriatic arthritis, disc disease , after 4 spine surgeries , 2 fusions, having itchy skin is the closest Ill get to scratch at age 67. I would love to try a mid-60 gram shaft, stiff flex. As is typically the case, you can get a completely clean look by installing the shaft logo down. Firm mid section and low launch, low spin is the norm for more control. Ventus has a mid-low launch with low spin. In the butt section, the Ventus is a little softer than the ATMOS Black and Speeder Evolution IV which leads to a slightly smoother feel. My smash went up considerably when we shortened my back swing but my club speed suffered a bit. Similar weight and torque. Thanks for the review, great detail! See below -> not sure if you meant the 6.5 or 6.5tx so included both. Cheers Matt. My swing speed is 85-90 MPH. The stock shaft in the TM drivers does not have Velocore. Seems like that club head speed would be better fit for the 6s and possibly make it easier to turn overJust curious cause I bought the 6x but have 7 grams of weight added to the head since I play it at 44. Sounds like a great shaft. Man the tighter dispersion mean less time in the trees and more time in the happy grass. Thats the shaft I play and to be honest I love it. Matt, Im interested in how you would compare the Ventus to the Speeder Evo II? APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! This article was very interesting. Did you try the 6s yet? The Ventus is amazing. Used Men's Right-Hand True Temper Project X HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX. While the tip and butt are firm, I felt a substantial kick in the midsection . NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Weight should be within a couple grams. At impact, the Ventus feels supremely stable, even on toe or heel shots. Since I had a pretty good idea what the Project X HZRDUS Smoke iM10 Low was going to do, I decided to start my testing with the iM10 Mid. The "real" versions with Velocore (which is the main tech in the shaft) are available through custom with a hefty up charge. TM Stealth2 Plus - 9* head only with headcover, Thinning the herd: DeWiz and Putters (Toulon Portland, Odyssey 5K, Ping Tyne 4, Kevin Burns, Scotty H20). Neither shaft has an objective advantage, its just a matter a fitting the right one to the right player. Anything youd compare the feel or profile of the mid offering? Looking at the tech specs, I would fit into the model 5 R-flex. The rdx is 1g lighter which is basically nothing. Would love to get one of these. This puppy getting some great reviews What driver head and loft did you use during your evaluation? The balance felt incredible and it had an effortless load without losing control. I have no way knowing how those combinations will perform differently for you. The lightest version has 5.0, 5.5, and 6.0 flexes. By They tested several prototypes and found that if they softened the flex a little and added more torque for feel and a slightly softer tip, they kept the mid launch mid spin profile but average golfers hit it much better than the stronger aftermarket Matrix Red. Yes, hook me up with a 60 Stiff and lets see if it flies longer than my current toys. TheVentus blue isnt really a blue profile in that sense Ive read premium but not for me for sure. Hey Matt, Pasted as rich text. Im worried my spin was slightly too low but I trust my guy. But I would love to test a 6X. Would love to retry the Ventus in 60 stiff. This shaft is the clear front runner to go in the bag this year and has given me real hope for turning driving into a strength of my game. At least those are my observations after playing the HZRDUS Smoke in my TS3 driver and fairway woods, and then using the RDX shaft at a recent fitting event for the TSi models. The Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue shaft is available in the widest range of flexes, spanning R2 to TX . Thanks for offering the shaft. Developed around Fujikura's successful VeloCore Technology, the. Thanks for the opportunity. The Ventus Blue is much smoother and more active than the HZRDUS Smoke Black. Thank you. If your SS is 112 to 115..you may have some efficiency issues. FOR URGENT MATTERS, TEXT: 1-855-339-3361 (US). I find I swing faster, but as a hitter, I struggle with finding the center of the face as consistently. Best Shafts - Low Launch: Mitsubishi Diamana DF 60 and 70, Mitsubishi TENSEI White, ACCRA TZ 5 65, OBAN Kiyoshi Black, Devotion 6 and 7, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Green, Fujikura Ventus Black 6 and 7, LA Golf Black Tie 7, TPT 15 MKP-MT-ST. Best Shafts - Mid Launch: Mitsubishi Diamana BF and ZF 60, ACCRA TZ 6 65, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black . I always appreciate your reviews. You cannot paste images directly. The ventus blue i tried was 6x, so id be curious to see of the 7x felt better. I love my smoke rdx 6.5 and want to know which one to chose from those two? I tried a exs 220 dr with the ventus 4 t and hit it well. 70 1 bids | 0d. The Project X HZRDUS Smoke iM10 shafts have largely the same graphics weve come to expect from the HZRDUS line but with a bold, green accent color. If its the stock Ventus, the shaft you have is not the same as the one reviewed here, and its not one I have much experience with. Great Review, sounds like a 50 gram R flex would fit this senior golfer perfect. As is typical of Fujikura's Speeder shafts, there isn't a big kick but rather a smooth energy transfer from your hands through the shaft. I would like a 50-A, i can see it sending the ball far down the fairway as i type this together. Doesnt need to be a TM tip, but would be great if it is! It's really smooth but I wish I went up in weight. I recently purchased the Ventus 6x ,65gram shaft and put it into Ping G 400 LST. I added that (15.5) and its great, but I wonder about the 60 in my driver, I have to really concentrate to keep the spin down with that. Jon. Cobra Aerojet LS 10.5* - AD TP 6TX/Aerojet LS 3 - Kaili White 7X /SZ Tour 5 - AD TP 8X /Apex 21 4H - AD IZ 95X /Cobra Tour 5-P KBS Tour V X /RTX6 50M, 56F - KBS 610S / 60M KBS Hi Rev 2.0 S/Tri Hot 5K DW CH /Bridgestone BX. Driver: PING G425 LST 9 w/ Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Blue 60 6.5 . I could get it to kick even without an aggressive swing, which led to very nice accuracy numbers. HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue TX. However, the dispersion is so tight, I will probably fix the spin with a higher lofted head rather than abandon this shaft. I love my (outdated) Fujikura shaft that I currently have on my driver. Titleist TSR3 9*, Tensei 1K Black 65X TM Stealth2 Plus - 9* head only with headcover, Thinning the herd: DeWiz and Putters (Toulon Portland, Odyssey 5K, Ping Tyne 4, Kevin Burns, Scotty H20). The main difference is that the Ventus has a much softer butt section compared to the two Atmos shafts- the Black is stiff everywhere and the Blue has a softer mid section like a Blueboard. For a new epic flash driver. I dont get along with smoke black, but the Ventus black 6 stiff is what I ended up with combined wish lifting up my TSi3 one click. Matt lives in the northwest suburbs of Chicago with his wife and two daughters. I like the look and your review piques my interest. Great review as always Matt. Hzrdus Smoke Green vs. Black Two of the most popular options within the Hzrdus Smoke range are the Green and Black shafts. If DJ switched from the Speeder, I probably should too.70G, stiff is what the golf gods would order. Ventus would be at 9.75*. Thanks P.I.G. Given that youve read both reviews, I dont think theres much for me to add. I found the Ventus black to feel much smoother with a subtle kick. The PING Tour is a great shaft, but it doesnt have much feel to me. Or is this something different. I would use a 70 Stiff flex. My iPad is in my golf duffel in the car. 1 drscott266 Advanced Members 1.2k Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted March 13, 2021 When I go to fujikuras website and read about the ventus they have a graph of the EI profile and it shows the tip being softer and the butt and mid being stiffer. Am I reading this wrong? I love Fujikura driver shafts. However I've been looking for deals on a ventus black 6X for driver and and 7X for 3W on here. Thanks for this opportunity. I am really happy with my TENSEI Orange CK Pro in my TS3 3w. Thanks again for your reviews. I cant say that I hit it further, but being in the fairway every time is a nice feeling. When @+7 KPTT takes the shaft out of his driver and hands it to you, and it performs great right out of the gate, you know you've found your gamer shaft Driver: ST-Z Lin-Q Gunmetal 6F5 Hybrid: Epic Super Hybrid 2 16* Hybrid: HL C521 3 19* Rogue X-Stiff Irons: PTX Pro DBM 4-PW Custom RECOIL PROTOTYPE 125 F5 Want to ask if this profile compares at all to the Tour AD DI in the same weight class? Ive got an AD GP in 6S, but it can be a little spinny, would an X flex help that a little? Smoke Blue RDX is a counterbalanced design that features a soft midsection to maximize shaft load and feel while maintaining a stout butt and tip section to keep up with all swing speeds and provide a . Or could you please describe the differences? Looking for a new 3 wood and many manufacturers are offering the non velocore with no uncharge wondering what it would be like or if I should look for something else. Dicks is currently offering this driver at a discount. The Project X HZRDUS Smoke iM10 shaft comes in two flavors: low spin and mid spin. But I still want to play with the boys ( sane guys Ive been playing with since 12 years old, and this seems to be a fabulous concept allowing for someone to go with softer flex yet maintain control of clubface throughout the swing. Lower spin with lower launch? pxg 5w 18 ventus blue; pxg proto 0341x 6s 42 22 . Im getting older and would Id really like to see if the 50g regular would bring back a little of my game! I just want to make sure I am not purchasing a stiff as well as a low torque shaft. Youve got my interested piqued where do you live that youre 300 miles from a fitter? SS is 103. nice review, thank you! Agree, same here but whats weird is i have always like blueboard type profilesand never got that soft handle sensation like the ventus blue gave me. Ah, my bad! Thanks for any thing you may offer. Would you have any suggestions between the Ventus Blue 5 or 6 Reg. I would love to try to 60gram regular for a Ping g410 Lst driver. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Thanks again. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! This shaft is excellent for low spins. Sign up for our weekly newsletter and not only will you get the latest reviews, instruction, and more delivered directly to your inbox, youll also be entered into regular giveaways for golf clubs, PGA Tour passes, and more. But 1 question, How can a shaft help center contact? The hzrdus black is a very stout low launch low spin shaft and very hard to turn over. So, yes, same ballpark, but not quite synonymous. If you like Ventus Blue but want a little more stability, check out Ventus TR HERE. The idea of accuracy, low spin, and feel how could you not want to try that?! Your link has been automatically embedded. Thanks for the info on this shaft. By SJL1216 Started 2 hours ago. Would love to mate the 60S with my M-5, and leave the loft at 10.5 degrees. Thank you Matt! Pasted as rich text. Introduction Project X's HZRDUS line, first introduced in 2015, became an immediate hit on Tour and among gear enthusiasts for its ability to drop spin and stand up to aggressive swings.M5 9.0XHzrdus Smoke Black 60 The ventus blue 6s would be a better fit for me than the x. I never got lm numbers with the 6x but I know positions off the tee where im normally at and the ventus when off had me 10-15 yards short and when on I hit some bombs with it. Your link has been automatically embedded. By I did have to bump the loft up (to 16.5) to combat the low spin but I loved the feel, accuracy and distance I was getting out of it. Has anyone compared these two as far as feel, launch and spin characteristics? What are your thoughts on this shaft compared to the HZRDUS Smoke Yellow? I have tested a lot of other premium shafts in the market-place but none compare to Fujikura. Sounds like a winner to me !! Thanks in advance. Awesome review. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! I havent hit the non-VeloCore Ventus, so I cant say anything remotely educated about it. Paste as plain text instead, Currently in green 60 6.5 with great results for my fade but finding difficulty getting it to launch high enough. Ventus 6X in a Ping G400 Max could be a nasty combo. The Speeder was first introduced in 1995. Who doesnt want faster ball speeds and down the middle of the fairway. Theres no reason not to try both. Ventus TR Blue and Tour Issue HZRDUS 85 6.5. Regards, OEM stock shafts typically are not the same as the aftermarket version. To close, I want to be clear that the Ventus is an awesome fit for me. TM Stealth2 Plus - 9* head only with headcover, Thinning the herd: DeWiz and Putters (Toulon Portland, Odyssey 5K, Ping Tyne 4, Kevin Burns, Scotty H20). When I time it, it's brilliant, but I'm mixed. Great review. All Rights Reserved. What had me most excited about the Ventus is the promise of improved dispersion. Tweaking shafts is one of the best parts of this game. Good article! Was fit for this shaft and loved it! You can post now and register later. 66 years old and I need to gain some distance back. Im looking into getting a strong 3 wood or mini driver and the Taylormade Im considering has this shaft in it. 4 t and hit it further, but being in the market-place but none compare to Fujikura purchased... Would compare the feel club speed ( US ) fundamentally but do share soft. Compare the Ventus 60 stiff 50, 60, but would be awesome to try to 60gram for. X offers 5.5 ( regular ), and 70 grams, you can have a fitting the right to! To the HZRDUS Smoke Green vs. black two of the reviewers have slower swing speeds so can... Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue shaft is available in the midsection Flash driver heads too smooth.! One made for a OEM, by apperance t and hit it well an awesome fit for for! 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